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Започната от tishovsx, 15.11.2009 16:15

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tishovsx

Този пич е почитател на акваскейпите, учасвал в няколко конкурса, почитател на Амано.
Това е новият му проект, естествено не е зарязал сладката вода като мен :-P
Ми..започваме както винаги.

(една уговорка- пускам аквариуми които на мен ми харесват, с простотата си и някакво подреждане, най вече вкус, и естествено със съкращения, без коментари на другите участници)

Аквариум с размери
100*60*50cm , 12mm glass, black painted glass in the overflow
Lighting: 6*39W T5 HO ( 4 Blue Special + 2 Blue Plus)
Circulation: 2 x Tunze Nanostream 6055 controlled by Tunze Multicontroller 7095 ( 2 x 5500L/h)
Live Rock: about 25kg, depending on the layout
Dead Rock: 6 Kgs of Reefplates
Substracte: Nature´s Ocean Bio-Active Live Aragonite, enough to make a small SB

Sump: 55*35*40cm ( Lenght*Wide*High)
Skimmer: Deltec MCE600 ( not permanent; upgradable to an NS 1000 or to a H&S A150-F2001)
Return Pump: Sicce Multi 2500 ( 2500L/h)
Heating: 250W Jager
Water reposition: Tunze osmolator with RO water
Ca, Mg and Hardness: Grotech NG III automatic doser

RO water deposit + salt water deposit: 35*35*50cm ( Lenght*Wide*High)

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: 15.11.2009г 16:04ч
Интересното тук е, че половината вода му е дадена "работеща" от приятел, малко от океана и другата е микс от вода и сол.
Половината камъни, са също от приятели. Другата е от така наречената "бейз скала"

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Снимки след напълването.
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: 15.11.2009г 16:04ч
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tishovsx

На снимките до тук са включени само 4 Т5
Те са 2 Х "Аква" Медик 10000K + 1 X ATI Blue Plus + 1 X "Аква" Медик 14000K.
Очаква още две специални актинични, ATI blue

Тестове
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рН = 8,1
kH = 7 

NO3 = 10 mg/L 
PO4 = 0.01 mg/L 

Ca = 450 mg/L
Mg = 1600 mg/L

Снимка от неговия домашен офис.

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tishovsx

Оказва се, че ATI лампите трудно се намират и в Португалия (за БГ нема даговорим *CRAZY*)
Пича ги заменил с тези

- Coral Light New Generation 14K
- Корал Лайт 10K - Coral Light 10K
- Корал Лайт Ново поколение 14K - Coral Light New Generation 14K
- Фиджи Purple - Fiji Purple
- Корал Лайт 10K - Coral Light 10K
- Корал Лайт Ново поколение 14K - Coral Light New Generation 14K
Ето и самото тяло

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Първи рибета, хромиси

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Това е аквариума в края на декември 2008г.
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tishovsx

Първи коралчета, акропори ...

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Колония от  Acanthastrea lordhowensis LPS
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tishovsx

Хромисите, са доста агресивни рибета и няколко са били убити.
Снимки на аквариума.

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Новите лампи, добавил още , всичко Т5
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Конфигурация е от ляво на дясно:

- KZ 14K 
- 22K Giesemann 
- 10K KZ 
- 22K Giesemann 
- KZ Fiji Purle 
- 10K KZ
- 22K Giesemann 
- KZ 14K

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Още

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Добавяне на контролер, за течности.
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Някой снимки от оборудването

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И любимото му рибе ;-)Blendy
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До тук аквариума е на четири месеца  =-O
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Добавяне на рибета.
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Пича си направил, скара за фрагове, ама хромисте си мислят за друго...
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*YAHOO*
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tishovsx

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В крайна сметка всеки купува вортеч, не, че е модерно , явно помпата е добра ;-)
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Raven

Веднага си личи че е акваскейпър човека, двата аквариума- морския и сладководния акваскейп един до друг са егати гледката =-O
Дай Боже всекиму.А и фотографията му идва отръки на този.
Коралчетата с лепило ли са лепени?
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tishovsx

С лепило, но това не е най важното. Ех как и аз искам такъв аквариум...ама пари.
....а казах ли че пари трябват =-O :buff:
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tishovsx

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Divane

това вече ми харесва много!!! ;-)

elblanko

Нещо не ми се връзва на мене, аквариума е съчетан добре с стената и пердетата но килима е прекалено шарен, да определено не ми харесва.  :-D
Не ''убивайте'' времето, защото то ще ви го върне.
                                                                                                                                Антон Светозаров
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ivonp

Еми страхотно е подреден. Определно човека има вкус

tishovsx

Аз пускам тука разни аквариумчета и хората във форума много се кефят...
Ама когато казвам, че тая работа не е като оная, некой не ми вярват.
Много лесно нещата излизат извън контрол, ако нямаш опит и си мислиш, че щом параметрите на водата са перфектни и всико е наред. Може да се слагат животни и въобще вече сме най добрите на планетата  *CRAZY*
(Да, ама не! Както е казал шерифа на журналистите в БГ, П.Бучаров :-D)

Та този Португалски аквариум много бързо се създаде и също толкова бързо умря...умря заради многото грешки които са се допуснали, по време на направата му. Не обяснява пича кво е станало, но всичко отначало в крайна сметка.

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panchopan

Ама я глей'къв як хардскеп е дръпнал сега, а ?
- Има си правила - не можете да използвате магия срещу граждани! - кресна търговецът.
Архиканцлерът Ридкъли щракна с пръсти и отвърна:
- Абе, аз винаги съм ги смятал по-скоро за общи напътствия...
А търговецът изквака и заподскача по улицата.

Raven

Стига бе, наистина ли се е разпаднала системата =-O

Язък, беше го напълнил добре с разни шарени неща, наистина беше стигнал до много напреднала фаза.
Интересно ще е да каже какво точно се е прецакалло, от гледна точка на опит и инфо ще е много полезно да се знае какви грешки е допуснал и защо е стнало така.
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tishovsx

Когато науча, ще споделя. Но по моя преценка макар и не до толкова компетентна е избързал доста. На всякъде където съм чел след добавяне на живинка трябва да мине поне седмица...а не всико на куп, щото се вижда докъде води всичко...
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niky

Ти сигурно си с железни нерви. Аз няма да изтрая толкова  :-D

marrio31

на една от снимките преброих 11 хромиса :-),може и на куп да ги е пуснал... това си е предпоставка за нестабилност

kamenov

Наведнъж ги е пуснал хромисите.
Едва ли е от тях обаче...

iek

Не знам откъде разбрахте, че аквариума е умрял, а взехте и причините да посочвате, абонирам съм за темата в reef central и такова нещо досега не е споменавано. Човека казва само "I must say that I have completely rescaped the tank due to several issues I had and which I will talk when I have some more time to write so for now". ( http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1514301 ).

kamenov

Ами ние разчитаме на това, което казва Тишо :)
Рийф централ не го посещавам...

tishovsx

Е така де, само дето го е рестартирал, или това не е достатъчно! Кой нормален рифаджия ще затрие аквариума само за да премести два камъка?! Явно е имал проблеми и ще се разбере. Доста пари са за да си го позволи ;-)
От снимките виждам, че и камъните са други, не виждам коралин по тях.
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iek

Нормален рифаджия няма да го направи, човека е акваскейпър, а и като гледам какви джунджурийки си е накупил, явно пари не му липсват, само помпичката му струва $200.
Аз в този аквариум проблеми не видях да има, дай  боже и моя да се окаже такъв "проблемен" някога.

tishovsx

След рестарта, Андре Силвестре е направил чудесен рифов акваскейп. =-O

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Сега е започнал доста предпазливо и с малки фрагове, и дано лошите неща да останат зад него  ;-)

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Един от добрите сладководни акваскейпъри е този пич, има добри попадения.
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tishovsx

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tishovsx

Андре явно е схванал как се прави риф и го доказва  ;-)

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tishovsx

Акваскейпъра Андре доказва, че и морските ги прави както трябва. *THUMBS UP*

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tishovsx

Андре, напреднал доста! Лошото е, че аз си седя на едно място :-|


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Уф *THUMBS UP*

IN A REEF AQUARIUM, ONLY BAD THINGS HAPPEN QUICKLY

Raven

А-аа, можело *THUMBS UP*

Вижте как хубаво става, че вие морските като редите камъни се едно с фадромата ги сипвате.
Друго си е да имаш представа от акваскейп :-)
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Баннете всички! Администраторът ще познае Своите.

iek

Да, личи си, че идва с образование на акваскейпър, обаче:

-хардскейпа ще се загуби с нарастване на коралите и ще остане единствено практическата страна на въпроса, а тя е камъните да са разположени, така че да се обдухват от всички страни, да стъпват върху минимална площ от дъното, да предоставят максимално полезна площ за залепване на коралите, в много случаи коралите идват вече прикрепени на други камъни, много от тези нещо не могат да се предвидят от началото, освен това трябва още да се съобрази минималното/макс. разстояние до лампите, да издържат като конструкция на един бъдещ товар. Абе с една дума не е точно като при имагумито работата.
Дори погледнете рифовите аквариуми на Амано в галерията му в Ниагата, аз поне не виждам разлика с тези по форумите.
Вярно е, че има различни стилове в морския акваскейп- тип фадрома, тип бонзай, минималистичен и кой знае още какви.

tishovsx

IN A REEF AQUARIUM, ONLY BAD THINGS HAPPEN QUICKLY

tishovsx

Малко развитие по темата :-)

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IN A REEF AQUARIUM, ONLY BAD THINGS HAPPEN QUICKLY

iek

Как би ми дошло добре едно пасажче от 20-на от тези апогони, НО при 40лв бройката- не, мерси!

JayCutler

Човека е направил и 2-та пъти невероятен скейп.
За заинтересуваните искам да кажа, че причината за разпада на аквариума е пропускането да направи карантина на риба, която са му я донесли как се казва точно диво уловена :).Човека обяснява, че няколко дни след пускане на рибата директно в аквариума са се появили някви петна по повечето риби :duvar:.Махнал е веднага всички корали за да започне лечение на рибите, от което не е имало голяма полза,  повечето са загинали...Общо взето това са причините за падението на аквариума.След случилото се човека е решил да доуформи хардскеипа и така сега пак наново...Както се вижда чиста човешка грешка :)
Много важен извод-не си спестявайте карантинен съд! :karamse:

Coral Master

Хм, много ценна информация!
И аз постоянно правя такава грешка, но сега вече имам 2 по-малки аквариума и ще се постарая да не става така.
Между другото, аз бих оставил рибите да умрат, но не бих закачал коралите, така поне те биха ми останали. Макар, че после незнам как ще изглежда без риби, защото скоро не може да се пуснат нови.
80л с LPS корали и 2 риби-старт. 08-2009;
Дисплей 600 л с SPS и LPS корали и 14 риби-старт. 09-2009, 120 кг живи камъни;, съмп 150 л, скимер TurboFlotor 1000, нитратредуктор NR1000, автом. kalkwasser бъркачка, AT-Control; Калц.реактор AquaMedic KR1000, LED 35 бр. 10W засега, течение 20000 л/час

JayCutler

Цитат на: Coral Master - 15.10.2010 10:39
Хм, много ценна информация!
И аз постоянно правя такава грешка, но сега вече имам 2 по-малки аквариума и ще се постарая да не става така.
Между другото, аз бих оставил рибите да умрат, но не бих закачал коралите, така поне те биха ми останали. Макар, че после незнам как ще изглежда без риби, защото скоро не може да се пуснат нови.

*privet* *DRINK*

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