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Lowest cost way to eliminate green hair, bubble, turf and slime algae

Започната от SantaMonicaHelp, 21.05.2012 21:36

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SantaMonicaHelp

Some more successes from waterfall scrubbers:

Damon on the IM site: "I have been completely skimmer less for over a month now, and my ats has brought my nitrates from off the chart above 50ppm and with yesterday's test it has come down to 5 on the high end with color choosing(can't wait for a Hanna to make a nitrate). I am extremely happy with my ats as it is now, but I do believe I'm going to build a second one next to it. I built this size for a small (75-90g heavy bioload), but I'm going to add a second one that will be a more professional build quality now that I have figured out how I want it to run. I still love the fact that I have dropped $25 a month in electricity, haven't done a water change in a month while still dropping nitrates and getting amazing coral growth. The best part is I am making these to utilize my overflow drains, so in essence I adding a more efficient form of filtration without adding any heat or extra electricity. I can't report on long term results as I've only been running an ats since last fall. But from where my tank was to where it is now is enough for me to jump ship, lol."

Kerry on the scrubber site: "I was hard for me to believe that this device worked. It took about a year before I built one and now I wish I knew about this years ago. Who would have thought algae would provide so much success? I even have one on my 150G FW Jack Dempsey tank as well. And yes, its so nice not to have a skimmer anymore!!!!"

Reefkeeper2 on the RC site: "I run a skimmer, biopellets and an ATS. The skimmer and the pellets worked well keeping nitrates at 0, but there was room for improvement with phosphate control. I tried GFO, and lanthanum. My sps do not like the GFO. I got STN often when I changed it out. The lanthanum worked, but was very labor intensive and so unpractical. The ATS did the trick nicely. I have been a reefer for a very long time. I think I have tried every method of nutrient control thought up by anyone. I really enjoy trying out new ideas and trying to improve on old ones. I have to say that this combination has worked the best of all I have tried over the years."

N728NY on the RC site: "Just chiming in to say I really hope this thread keeps going! Lots of good info. I'm still pretty new to keeping a reef tank. I have been running a scrubber with my skimmer for the past three months. Before then I could never get my nitrates below 15, and since I added my scrubber I never been able to detect any nitrates, even after feeding twice as much. I know with my 75 gallon set up, I made my scrubber slightly over sized (sized for 100 gallons) and I dump huge amounts of pellets and frozen shrimp in my tank on top of spot feeding my corals on a regular basis and I still have yet to register any nitrates on my test kit. Being that I'm still new I still haven't built up the courage to unplug the skimmer yet. I may try it once I know for sure my scrubber is fully matured, got plenty of ro water made up and salt ready just in case I need to do an emergency water change lol. I still have a clump of cheato left that I suppose would be good back up if the scrubber couldn't keep up. The cheato doesn't really grow very much right now because of the scrubber. I love these scrubbers, I'm so glad I took the time to read "both sides" of the arguments on them to find out the facts about them."

Kentth on the scrubber site: "overall the tank is much healthier, a lot of feather dusters, coming out of the rocks, yellow sponges, other opaque sponges. big thing is no water changes for over 8 months, almost no silt, it has really cut my maintenance"

Langtudatinh01 on the RC site: "i completely redo my 40B with the ATS from beginning, i barely see much algae on my display tank but i now have a mature ATS. i relocated all my fish and add another one without any issue. the dead rocks i use bleach quite a lot of phosphate back into the water, but the ATS has handle the issue like a cham. i do not see much algae on my display. everything is green like grass down at the ATS. i am very happy so far.'

Bicolour on the MFUK site: "quick update, so my ats has been running since [6 weeks ago] and i gotta say all the algea in my tank and on the sand has gone, wow. gotta say it was well worth doing. i dont monitor growth at the moment but this is something i will be doing in the future, my set up was basic costing very little as i wanted to try this before i really looked into the idea. very impressed and can only say if you got space look into it"

Rysher on the RC site:  "i have a 6x9 screen, 1 inch is submerged so only 6x8 is really used, i also have a 40b. it has been my only form of filtration ever since i started the tank [months ago], i feed almost 2 cubes a day, only have 2 fishes but u cant see any algae on my DT, almost non existent film algae too, i clean my DT glass maybe once a week."

Packman90 on the RC site: "I have a 72 Gallon bow front and until a couple of months ago I was going to throw my tank away and give up on saltwater tanks all together. I was brand new, took a lot of advice, started my system and watched as it became more and more green, until i found out about scrubbers. I lost all of the coral frags I bought, about $400.00 worth, and just felt that I would never get it. I have it now, and just bought my first new frags in over 8 months. Thanks to all of you scrubbers out there who showed me the way. Here is the tank after the scrubber did it's magic. this took a total of 1 month for it to clear up, and I did not remove any of the algae, it just melted a way. Only problem I have is that i have some sea grass that is melting away as well and cheto in my sump is also slowly dieing."

SantaMonicaHelp

Here is all the requirement for building a UAS

Screen material:
1)Use plastic canvas as the algae screen. Remember to roughen it up properly using a wood saw or hole saw. You can get plastic canvas at craft store (under sewing section) or sewing store or online at places like www.everythingplasticcanvas.com or ebay. Screen should look like this:

https://aquariumbg.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Falgaescrubber.net%2FScreenHoleSaw.jpg&hash=d6902ba90435039baeb3f1483cabb6834cd3578e
https://aquariumbg.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Falgaescrubber.net%2FCanvasCompare.jpg&hash=985a2900299addaa82d33c833160f311191cdd97

Lighting
2)The lighting needs to be 1 watt per square inch (6.25 square cm) of screen material. A 3 by 4 inch screen is 12 square inches not 24. Make sure you have enough wattage and use a reflector if the light doesnot focus on screen. For fluorescent bulbs, it needs to have a spectrum of 2700k-3000k. For LEDs, it needs to be red 660nm. You can cut the wattage in half if you are using LED lights. In order for algae to grow, make sure that the light is on for 18 hours a day. Here are some bulbs and reflector type:


https://aquariumbg.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Falgaescrubber.net%2FBeerCan.jpg&hash=7aba56464929aaf19b4558d2d18253ce05ba1b0d

Bubbles:
3)The bubbles need to be rapid and large and distributed through out the screen evenly for algae to grow. The best way to do this is by slicing the air tubing. Make sure the air pump is good so that the bubbles can constantly flow across the screen for 24 hours a day. This is why you need bubbles:
https://aquariumbg.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Falgaescrubber.net%2FWhyBubbles.jpg&hash=49256cfb47729f1cc8dcf187a6bc092c61286b06

SantaMonicaHelp


SantaMonicaHelp

Имате ли някакви предложения за най-добрите като продуктът е произведен, за да се правят тези?

SantaMonicaHelp


SantaMonicaHelp

Some success stories of people who built upflow algae scrubbers...

ReeferMat on the MASC site: "So I decided to build one of these [UAS scrubbers] today. It's huge because all I had was a 12 inch airstone, but I'm hoping that won't matter too much. It cost me less than $20 to build, so if it works that is the best bang for the buck I have ever seen in the war on algae! It has been up and running for 3 months now and I have to say my tank looks a lot better. Every time I clean it it grows a new type of algae, slime, turf, etc... and it grows fast. I would say I have seen a decline in nuisance algae in my tank, but to be honest that would be an understatement.... It has all but eradicated it. Every time I look at the scrubber I can't help but think that all that junk would be growing in my DT"

Owenreefin on the PNWMAS site: "The first two months of running this UAS scrubber thing I was convinced I was going to rip it out for the algae growth was dismal, and I figured that my system just couldn't make it work. (I also have algae in my fuge) WELL I WAS WRONG. The thing started to really kick in. So much so that I just conducted my only water change in 2 months and I hardly think it was even necessary. I usually do a change of 30% every 2 weeks. My sand bed has cleared up big time too. With the water change I pulled out a good baseball sized amount of algae off the scrubber, couldn't be happier! I will always be running one of these. I will post pics of its growth next time I change water. Many months from now. :)

Bobba on the scrubber site: "Well, it's been almost 3 weeks with the HOG.5, and 2 with my lone Turbo snail. I am happy to report that I have no Hair Algae left in the tank. No signs of any regrowth of what the snail has eaten either."

Clavius on the scrubber site:

"I've been running a 500 liter tank now for 5 years. It is very well stocked with SPS, LPS, softies, filter feeders and a modest amount of fish. The nutrients were being kept very low by a combination of a giant skimmer and the ZEOvit method. Off course, this results in very lightly coloured corals, which was my goal. Generally I'm very pleased with the colouring and growth of my corals, and please with my tank in general. But one battle I've always lost: brown algae covering my sandbed. I could not, for the life of me, find what was causing those algae. Not to mention solve it. I've tried many many things to solve it, but up untill recently, without luck.

Almost three weeks ago though, I installed a HOG.5 unit. It was a little experiment that I wanted to do ever since I learned about algae scrubbers. I was never creative enough to build one myself, as the space in my 100 ltr sump is very limited. The HOG.5 was affordable and tiny enough to enable my experiment. I could even fit 6 of those units in there with ease. Off course, with the ZEO-method, my nutrients already were really very low. I couldn't measure any NO3 or PO4 with my Salifert test kits. And I never bothered with more expensive kits; unmeasurable should be good enough. I wanted to see if the vitamins and amino acids that the algae scrubber produces would add anything to my reef. And, more importantly, if the algae would consume "something" that the brown algae on my sandbed require.

The result in my sandbed is staggering. After only 3 weeks, not a trace of the pesky brown algae is left! An extra benefit, that I didn't expect, is that my lightly coloured corals now all have noticably much more colour. Without getting darker. They seem to glow! I don't know if it is from the vitamins that are released in the water [from the algae scrubber]. Or maybe the ugly brown algae [on the sand] were also covering my corals and that I now finally seeing my uncovered corals! Strangely enough, the algae in my HOG.5 aren't light green, as you would expect with nutrient-poor tanks. But they're a mix of dark brown with red tints here and there. So, I have no idea why that is or how that works. But at this stage I'm just so happy that I really don't care."

SantaMonicaHelp

Some more UAS upflow algae scrubber (tm) examples...

"Joey2525" on the CMF site...
https://aquariumbg.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.algaescrubber.net%2FUasJoey2525OnCMF-4.jpg&hash=1fca86b324e3510cb2e018a6a9750c673d8fc2d9

https://aquariumbg.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.algaescrubber.net%2FUasJoey2525OnCMF-1.jpg&hash=2fa7450d7c3a6afd5e23b5b0f7d920b119aa56a1

https://aquariumbg.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.algaescrubber.net%2FUasJoey2525OnCMF-2.jpg&hash=daf2a497d0b6d5d11cb04a507a243ddcc4ff764f

https://aquariumbg.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.algaescrubber.net%2FUasJoey2525OnCMF-3.jpg&hash=c961a6d78ba278aab16c0874ba77d80bc4407a4b




"Alexleblanc" on the scrubber site...
https://aquariumbg.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.algaescrubber.net%2FUasAlexleblancOnAS-2.jpg&hash=8463d05e604b2e17941da43ec54d4b1ad2a5aa4e

https://aquariumbg.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.algaescrubber.net%2FUasAlexleblancOnAS-1.jpg&hash=1310e6f63bd1c95a426818d9455d260b5d136ffb

https://aquariumbg.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.algaescrubber.net%2FUasAlexleblancOnAS-4.jpg&hash=8e2a5a214e0f0a2d0b568b2b5a7769f90a18a334

https://aquariumbg.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.algaescrubber.net%2FUasAlexleblancOnAS-5.jpg&hash=7c3c0377125a74175e949bc504aebd353ae0046d




"Disney" on the PH841 site...
https://aquariumbg.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.algaescrubber.net%2FUasDisneyOnPh84-1.jpg&hash=082b620b9df347a780cd31bd9c2713dae47a43cd

https://aquariumbg.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.algaescrubber.net%2FUasDisneyOnPh84-2.jpg&hash=52a8bfe8fe30d4aac34e56fa61bc1d3e8516b6cf



"Cdm2012" on the scrubber site...
https://aquariumbg.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.algaescrubber.net%2FUasCdm2012onAS-3.jpg&hash=91a418dd6fcb02a95b717eb6ac7b6bb00f8cd065

https://aquariumbg.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.algaescrubber.net%2FUasCdm2012onAS-1.jpg&hash=1f91e24e3dfe60b3473897337a32e117afa2b36e

https://aquariumbg.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.algaescrubber.net%2FUasCdm2012onAS-2.jpg&hash=7fd20a9581fc96c628c6e0bd43435bf7efc8a264




"Bicyclebill" on the PNWMAS site
https://aquariumbg.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.algaescrubber.net%2FUasBicyclebillOnPNWMAS-3.jpg&hash=73fcd216d9555d2bb19b5171ab4349ec39923aad

https://aquariumbg.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.algaescrubber.net%2FUasBicyclebillOnPNWMAS-2.jpg&hash=ea51c15ebad4951d6db7aa1d5c4a74c9acd531a6

https://aquariumbg.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.algaescrubber.net%2FUasBicyclebillOnPNWMAS-1.jpg&hash=e69f93074aeba14886620755b7810bd0401a4fa4




"Mbonus" on the scrubber site...
https://aquariumbg.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.algaescrubber.net%2FUasMbonusOnAS-1.jpg&hash=8c0162006777062348bf5c2bc0e4798dd2a39db1




"UasIslakkie" on the UR site...
https://aquariumbg.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.algaescrubber.net%2FUasIslakkieOnUR-1.jpg&hash=1f1c218f0dc1dc6e5018dde80b8f9c2dadb5401b

https://aquariumbg.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.algaescrubber.net%2FUasIslakkieOnUR-2.jpg&hash=bbc70244352adcddfab02f2436e97b53cee8abf5




"Alman" on the AH site...
https://aquariumbg.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.algaescrubber.net%2FUasAlmanOnIAH-1.jpg&hash=1bb7f2ca854bf4ecfaa42a79819b8dabc6585512




"JosephAcquario" on another site...
https://aquariumbg.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.algaescrubber.net%2FUasJosephAcquario-2.jpg&hash=a0706b9b2a2ee8fbc377c46c207d894c9c247820

https://aquariumbg.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.algaescrubber.net%2FUasJosephAcquario-1.jpg&hash=61af2a2f7dc0b5f1779d1e835715f5785491a5d3




"Ericsson" on the scrubber site...
https://aquariumbg.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.algaescrubber.net%2FUasEricssonOnAS-2.jpg&hash=9a7f1ea23df47e283cca29fb752b434560cb2535

https://aquariumbg.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.algaescrubber.net%2FUasEricssonOnAS-1.jpg&hash=b81fbea9a07728b040eeaa61087a123c9cf1a192

https://aquariumbg.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.algaescrubber.net%2FUasEricssonOnAS-3.jpg&hash=71e69a0093eca093d4e444b89a53190f3c5e35f3



"FotisGt" on the AZ site...
https://aquariumbg.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.algaescrubber.net%2FUasFotisGtAquazone-1.jpg&hash=0c60075bbc70263b249bec17ddbb964dcc2b2d7d

https://aquariumbg.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.algaescrubber.net%2FUasFotisGtAquazone-2.jpg&hash=86bb4fb7b47e079c297c2288352408f4c8311c24

https://aquariumbg.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.algaescrubber.net%2FUasFotisGtAquazone-3.jpg&hash=c4cc506045271e2090f5528df7d3a8a19a282522




"Colin" on the PNWMAS site...
https://aquariumbg.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.algaescrubber.net%2FUasColinOnPNWMAS-1.jpg&hash=865ca44c0adb092cc456dad9e1707e6a5947b805




"Accrod" on the PH841 site...
https://aquariumbg.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.algaescrubber.net%2FUasAccrodOnPH84-1.jpg&hash=07fbcf109b4ba4e0e03872bc4695feaafe6637d8




"Atari" on the MC site...
https://aquariumbg.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.algaescrubber.net%2FUasAtariOnMC-1.jpg&hash=859619cc1cf8bcc8da570b8533f63180c93ffd4d




"Kaykay" on the SG site...
https://aquariumbg.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.algaescrubber.net%2FUasKaykayOnSG-1.jpg&hash=25bccb47dbd230bd06311abde49f62e2670eec67




"Jameshopper" on the UR site...
https://aquariumbg.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.algaescrubber.net%2FUasJameshopperOnUR-1.jpg&hash=2183c99bf140806bf393e0a73e5d861fdfab3d0a

https://aquariumbg.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.algaescrubber.net%2FUasJameshopperOnUR-2.jpg&hash=4529e0b6d90df77f3b562db20ca9107426665c1d

NO CARRIER

Чудя се защо няма интерес към тоя филтър, който ми изглежда доста лесен за изпълнение, а и би трябвало да е доста ефективен?
https://aquariumbg.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftsvetkov.be%2Fupld%2Ffiles%2F1%2Fsign.jpg&hash=1bbdd94fc32cecdafae4a45f7c2393708fb9e9a5
Дневникът на Николай Цветков
Не ме е яд, че ме лъжат. Яд ме е когато мислят, че им вярвам.

Стоян Михов

Цитат на: NO CARRIER - 08.12.2012 22:05
Чудя се защо няма интерес към тоя филтър, който ми изглежда доста лесен за изпълнение, а и би трябвало да е доста ефективен?
Има нещо като проклятие над този филтър, иначе изглежда ефективен, особено за морски аквариуми. Мисля че проблемът му е, че не е хай тек, а хората напоследък, ако нещо няма хиляда помпи и 20 контролера просто не вярват, че ще работи.
https://s13.postimg.org/xijfjz5x3/Untitled.jpg

tomatomov197

Цитат на: NO CARRIER - 08.12.2012 22:05
Чудя се защо няма интерес към тоя филтър, който ми изглежда доста лесен за изпълнение, а и би трябвало да е доста ефективен?
Аз лично го бях проучвал много сериозно преди време , но човек трябва да има съмп , иначе е грозна картина .  По-лесно е да го ползват соленоводни акваристи .
С добра дума и пистолет се постига повече, отколкото само с добра дума.

NO CARRIER

Ясно, разбрах. Мерси за отговорите!
https://aquariumbg.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftsvetkov.be%2Fupld%2Ffiles%2F1%2Fsign.jpg&hash=1bbdd94fc32cecdafae4a45f7c2393708fb9e9a5
Дневникът на Николай Цветков
Не ме е яд, че ме лъжат. Яд ме е когато мислят, че им вярвам.

SantaMonicaHelp

Air Pump Recommendations for UAS® upflow algae scrubbers®. Having bought and tried all of these, here are the best ones:


Flow (highest to lowest):

Coralife Super Luft... TONS of flow for multiple outlets or multiple scrubbers
Tetra Whisper 300... High flow if both outlets are combined into one
JW Aquatic Fusion 700... High flow if both outlets are combined into one
Tetra Whisper 150... Good flow for one outlet
Coralife Luft (regular)... Good flow for one outlet


Noise (most to least):

Coralife Super Luft... (Loud; vibrates)
Coralife Luft (regular)... (Vibrates)
JW Aquatic Fusion 700... Slight vibration
Tetra Whisper 300... Silent
Tetra Whisper 150... Silent


Size: (big to small):

Tetra Whisper 300... Large
JW Aquatic Fusion 700... Medium
Coralife Super Luft... Medium
Tetra Whisper 150... Medium
Coralife Luft (regular)... Small


Cost (most to least):

Coralife Super Luft
Coralife Luft (regular)
Tetra Whisper 300
Tetra Whisper 150
JW Aquatic Fusion 700

Overall winner for a single UAS scrubber used at home: JW Aquatic Fusion 700 (also is the only one with adjustable flow)
Overall winner for multiple UAS scrubbers if noise if ok: Coralife Super Luft

SantaMonicaHelp

1982: The original dump-bucket style algae scrubber (works, but very hard to build, install, operate, and harvest)

2008: Waterfall style algae scrubber (works good but hard to build and install; must be removed to harvest)

2011: Upflow style scrubber (work goods, easier to build and install on the glass; must be removed to harvest)

2013: ??? (work great, all 3D growth, easy to build, and instant in-place harvesting without needing to remove anything or turn anything off).

SantaMonicaHelp

If anyone has been waiting to build a waterfall or upflow scrubber, we will soon be posting plans of the new floating surface scrubber. It floats at the top and does not need a waterfall, and it does not shine through the glass.

SantaMonicaHelp

How to build a floating surface scrubber:
Как да се изгради плаваща версия повърхност:
https://aquariumbg.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.algaescrubber.net%2FP8.jpg&hash=50b6f61f9b79527012d71bb5371647eb82de9cee

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